tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post422039667449393145..comments2023-10-23T13:48:04.341-05:00Comments on kind of . . .: Durakovo: Village of Fools (brief review)bonnie lenore kyburzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04856781539848156298noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-7839403360739142522009-10-08T08:01:36.822-05:002009-10-08T08:01:36.822-05:00Hi Pavel, thank you very much for that, just saw i...Hi Pavel, thank you very much for that, just saw it now, so sorry for the delay. Actually there will me a dvd release for a long version in a months time and it's dorianfilm.com who is going to do it. it will be available on amazon.com and on fnac. com mant thanks again, ninoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-35142534598873799862009-08-25T17:26:40.759-05:002009-08-25T17:26:40.759-05:00Dear friends and critics of Durakovo!
About mysel...Dear friends and critics of Durakovo!<br /><br />About myself:<br />I love the Russian culture, I speak Russian fluently, I have been to Russia many times both before Perestroyka and after that.<br />I have seen the speach on the Russian TV by M. Gorbatchov announcing the free market economy, I have seen the speach by V. Putin just after the Russian invasion to Georgia in 2008.<br /><br />About Pavelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-60555325477563827702009-05-11T04:20:00.000-05:002009-05-11T04:20:00.000-05:00Hi Nino,
thank you very much for the documentary...Hi Nino, <br /><br />thank you very much for the documentary. I would very glad to have a full version of the film - as it was broadcast via tv in France, Germany and Israel. Unfortunately there is no possibility to buy Durakovo on DVD - only short BBC-version is available. Could you please advise me on this matter?<br /><br />Once again thanks a lot for a great material.<br /><br />Sincerely, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-55343962477900523942008-09-17T08:34:00.000-05:002008-09-17T08:34:00.000-05:00hi Miho,thanks for writing. but what i see you say...hi Miho,<BR/><BR/>thanks for writing. but what i see you saying is not in agreement, necessarily, with some earlier posts. that is, some have said that the film is not truthful, which is not the same as saying that it is shocking. your comments confirm the validity of the story the film tells, which is, to be sure, about the one village but also about the larger issues you describe.<BR/><BR/>bonnie lenore kyburzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04856781539848156298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-53865562723359774832008-09-16T22:32:00.000-05:002008-09-16T22:32:00.000-05:00Hello, I am ethnic Georgian too. Maybe someone wil...Hello, I am ethnic Georgian too. Maybe someone will say that my opinion is biased too, but I wanna say that I agree with Vladimir it's quite shocking movie and hard to believe! But unfortunately, it tends to be realistic, although I cant's say that such communities discribed in this film are common all over the Russia. But still it is hard to deny that in nowaday Russia there's a lot of people Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-67391408704910147772008-09-09T07:34:00.000-05:002008-09-09T07:34:00.000-05:00actually, Vladimir, my concerns were raised quite ...actually, Vladimir, my concerns were raised quite a while ago, when the tone of the exchanges became conflicted in ways that made me uncomfortable in terms of the kind of conversation i'd care to host.bonnie lenore kyburzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04856781539848156298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-37921659739137407712008-09-09T06:14:00.000-05:002008-09-09T06:14:00.000-05:00Bonnie,You are right. I gave a link to what I beli...Bonnie,<BR/><BR/>You are right. I gave a link to what I believe is an unbiased documentary (by J. Dimbleby) answering plenty of questions related to the above discussion. I would be gratified if you decide to give this documentary a time of day :)volodyakohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12661124430564284471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-22370857189870440602008-09-08T11:01:00.000-05:002008-09-08T11:01:00.000-05:00hello Vladimir,i appreciate that you are moved to ...hello Vladimir,<BR/><BR/>i appreciate that you are moved to engage in a discussion of Nino's film and the situations it surfaces for her audiences. documentaries are nearly always controversial in a vareity of ways (form and content), and i believe that we've covered this territory in previous posts.<BR/><BR/>at this point, then, i find that we are not moving the conversation forward but are bonnie lenore kyburzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04856781539848156298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-22958897758509829342008-09-08T10:47:00.000-05:002008-09-08T10:47:00.000-05:00Hello, Nino and Bonnie.Okay, here I am, standing a...Hello, Nino and Bonnie.<BR/><BR/>Okay, here I am, standing accused in... many things :-P I also take accusations towards Russia personally because I don't agree with these. You just don't know what are you talking about.<BR/><BR/>Assume no actors, okay. Myopia? Ha! I've got a doctoral degree and I probably read more books about US than you about Eastern Europe.<BR/><BR/>Nino, I'm really sorry forvolodyakohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12661124430564284471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-75374021699790853572008-09-07T14:40:00.000-05:002008-09-07T14:40:00.000-05:00sad, indeed, Nino. i hope you can get the film wid...sad, indeed, Nino. i hope you can get the film wider distribution. or, do like Charles Ferguson has done and release it for a limited time on YouTube. ??<BR/><BR/>i hope to see you at Sundance again soon :)bonnie lenore kyburzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04856781539848156298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-60326883518852033582008-09-07T14:34:00.000-05:002008-09-07T14:34:00.000-05:00Thanks, Bonnie... you are right: it's better to le...Thanks, Bonnie... you are right: it's better to let people say what they want to.. And it was very interesting for me to see this comments.. they also tell a story.. I feel sad about the fact that what was in the film became even worse in 1 year.. as you say, peace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-73419727229608084892008-09-07T12:27:00.000-05:002008-09-07T12:27:00.000-05:00thanks for writing, Nino. as you can see, i've ste...thanks for writing, Nino. as you can see, i've stepped away from the controversy by avoiding commentary since a few posts back.<BR/><BR/>i had thought about deleting the post altogether because of the conflicted ways in which race issues are being discussed. <BR/><BR/>instead, i think it's better to let people talk about it. but i'm sort of done commenting.<BR/><BR/>fwiw, i continue to find your bonnie lenore kyburzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04856781539848156298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-11363379803909766622008-09-07T10:30:00.000-05:002008-09-07T10:30:00.000-05:00vladimir, I stand corrected. Or do I? I was un...vladimir, I stand corrected. Or do I? I was under the impression that Russians habitually refer to Georgians and other peoples of the Caucasus by the charming soubriquet, 'black arses", or "cherniye zhopi" to use the Russian. Next you'll be telling me this is a touching Russian expression of endearment. Let's be honest about this, Vladimir, it makes not a jot of difference here whether weAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-8051575483794871962008-09-07T10:20:00.000-05:002008-09-07T10:20:00.000-05:00just to make things clear: thanks for "compliments...just to make things clear: thanks for "compliments", Vladimir, especially for the comparison with stalin. but let me assure you, that there is NO ACTOR in the film. I directed it myself and found this blog by chance. The sad thing, which in your myopia you refuse to confront, is that this is all real unfortunately for russia and for entire world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-74756081827935466722008-09-05T16:18:00.000-05:002008-09-05T16:18:00.000-05:00james, your comment is very rude, I admit. Whateve...james, your comment is very rude, I admit. Whatever Jewish or black, you should not offend others on such weak pretexts.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I wonder if james even knows what "racism" means. In fact Russians and Georgians are both white. Was that "nationalism" that he possibly meant?<BR/><BR/>Well, here you, james, are wrong. I live in Western Europe for quite a few years and work with people of volodyakohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12661124430564284471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-87085053378558335672008-09-05T10:34:00.000-05:002008-09-05T10:34:00.000-05:00Let's not beat about the bush here. Vladimir r...Let's not beat about the bush here. Vladimir reveals himself right from the beginning,when he writes this: "It is the misleading narrator commentaries by Kirtadze (who, like Joseph Stalin, is an ethnic Georgian"). This is a racist diatribe from beginning to end. May be I'm Jewish, Vladimir, or black. Do you have anything to say about that? Can you explain why being Georgian is relevantAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-60761217250387804922008-09-05T09:14:00.000-05:002008-09-05T09:14:00.000-05:00I wander where Vladimir saw "well known actor...I wander where Vladimir saw "well known actor " in the film? there are no actors and unfortunately all you see in the film is a reality. even russian newspaper "commersant" recognises it. please have a look http://www.kommersant.ru/doc.aspx?fromsearch=0af5c1b6-c93b-48b1-a1c4-7d7e9cb7ef28&docsid=885633 it's also in russian, sorryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-9589162169199846902008-08-28T09:44:00.000-05:002008-08-28T09:44:00.000-05:00Bonnie,You wrote: "i do find that Kirtadze has ope...Bonnie,<BR/><BR/>You wrote: "i do find that Kirtadze has opened up a window of inquiry where i had been previously sort of complacent in believing what i had been told".<BR/><BR/>Well done! If it only was for you some other, less controversial film... And some more trustable filmmaker. But anyway, yes, you are right: where there is a controversy, there is a wish to know the truth.<BR/><BR/>Your volodyakohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12661124430564284471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-11508612829062496752008-08-27T11:51:00.000-05:002008-08-27T11:51:00.000-05:00hi Vladimir,i think -- maybe -- we are coming to m...hi Vladimir,<BR/><BR/>i think -- maybe -- we are coming to more agreement than disagreement. and, as my blog is about contemplating representation, i find this conversation regarding what Kirtadze's film does, as well as how media represent these complicated developments, important and timely and necessary. <BR/><BR/>i will be the first to agree that western mainstream media outlets often get it bonnie lenore kyburzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04856781539848156298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-27470611243873117482008-08-27T09:41:00.000-05:002008-08-27T09:41:00.000-05:00Hi Marika, Bonnie,It's nice to find your comments ...Hi Marika, Bonnie,<BR/><BR/>It's nice to find your comments being back to this blog.<BR/><BR/>Marika, you were right correcting me about the Russian grammar rules. So please forgive my "literary" translation. I wrote this while being upset by the film. My message was that the film was not about the announced topic, "democracy". It was just about something different. This message Marika probably volodyakohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12661124430564284471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-75677139453549825242008-08-19T10:44:00.000-05:002008-08-19T10:44:00.000-05:00hi Marika and Vladimir,i appreciate your comments....hi Marika and Vladimir,<BR/><BR/>i appreciate your comments. i did not comment, Vladimir, on your note, because it caught me by surprise, coming so long after the original post and also coming to me as a reproach for which i did not have any easy answers. <BR/><BR/>Marika's comments help me to see the complexity of how audiences are receiving Kirtadze's film. conflicting analyses notwithstanding,bonnie lenore kyburzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04856781539848156298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-13083775915107689982008-08-19T04:07:00.000-05:002008-08-19T04:07:00.000-05:00Dear Vladimir,the only literary translation for th...Dear Vladimir,<BR/><BR/>the only literary translation for the word/name Durakovo is a place with fools, the only possible translation for the russian word "durak" (дурак) is "fool" and "-ovo" is just a suffix which we often see in russian/slavic geographical names, so please dont try to associate this with the word Junkie, its not true. I guess you are the one, who expects his audience to know Marikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04850920212021758556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-56951482292764300122008-07-07T18:57:00.000-05:002008-07-07T18:57:00.000-05:00The footage doesn't have anything to do with democ...The footage doesn't have anything to do with democracy in Russia (modern or whatever). The film is set in what in fact is a <B>countryside clinic for alcohol and drug addicts</B>. Here is the (Russian-only, sorry guys) <A HREF="http://www.rg.ru/2007/03/30/durakovo.html" REL="nofollow">paper where Morozov explains his reabilitation method</A>. It is the misleading narrator commentaries by Kirtadzevolodyakohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12661124430564284471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-35603835379736746292008-04-13T09:04:00.000-05:002008-04-13T09:04:00.000-05:00hi anonymous. sorry you don't enjoy reading in my ...hi anonymous. sorry you don't enjoy reading in my style. it's an aesthetic choice, for me.<BR/><BR/>thanks for writing (and, for now, reading here).bonnie lenore kyburzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04856781539848156298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606731675776472934.post-60430273958055793462008-04-13T07:18:00.000-05:002008-04-13T07:18:00.000-05:00Why don't you use capital letters at the beginning...Why don't you use capital letters at the beginning of sentences?It is very unpleasant to read.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com